On 4 January I talked with economist Raj Patel about his new book The Value of Nothing: How to Reshape Market Society and Redefine Democracy (Picador) and with Matt Roney, a research staffer at the Earth Policy Institute, about Plan B 4.0 (W W Norton) by the EPI's president Lester R Brown.
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